From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1722: Meta-Digit not working for info command Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:01:10 -0800 Message-ID: <003a01c96916$44c359e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <4957B4D2.9050606@gnu.org> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 1722@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1230488620 13262 80.91.229.12 (28 Dec 2008 18:23:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:23:40 +0000 (UTC) To: , <1722@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>, Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 19:24:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LH0Jh-0006Ox-Dt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:24:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59952 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LH0IT-0006uN-5h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LH0IP-0006u7-OS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:25 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LH0IO-0006tY-8s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42624 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LH0IN-0006tU-TJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:23 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:59125) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0IN-0006GG-EX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:23 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mBSINLo0002249; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:23:21 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mBSIA3rN031162; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:10:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1722 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1722-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1722.123048727929019 (code B ref 1722); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1722) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Dec 2008 18:01:19 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from rgminet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mBSI1FRh029013 for <1722@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:01:17 -0800 Original-Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by rgminet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mBSI1j1I011108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:01:46 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt705.oracle.com (acsmt705.oracle.com [141.146.40.83]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mBSI1dtk025229; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:01:40 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.171.49) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:01:06 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <4957B4D2.9050606@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AclpFA+sDTG7Gmf/SWiEKW51bpp5KQAAKkqw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt705.oracle.com [141.146.40.83] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4957BEE4.0016:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:23:25 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23537 Archived-At: Actually, I should have also mentioned trying `C-h k C-h i', not just reading NEWS - the help I gave you was only partial. `C-h k C-h i' says this, among other things: "In interactive use, a non-numeric prefix argument directs this command to read a file name from the minibuffer. A numeric prefix argument selects an Info buffer with the prefix number appended to the Info buffer name." That indicates that this change was intentional, and that a numeric prefix arg (e.g. `M-2') has a new meaning, which is to open Info with a buffer that adds `2' to the buffer name. To be more precise, it should say that "" is appended to the buffer name, where N is the numeric prefix-arg value. So, e.g., `M-2' opens buffer "*info*<2>". IOW, it's not a bug but a feature. And plain `C-u' continues to give the behavior you want: prompt for the Info file to use. You say that there is no hint about this `C-u' behavior, but it is clearly documented in the doc string of command `info', as shown by `C-h k C-h i' or `C-h f info'. You looked for it in the doc for `C-u'. `C-u' has different behavior for different keys it precedes, and its doc string cannot (and should not) try to describe all such particular behaviors. See node `Arguments' of the Emacs manual. HTH - Drew > From: Bruce Korb Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:18 AM > CF: email from help-gnu-emacs > > From: "Drew Adams" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > References: <4956B2A5.2050106@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: How can I select a .info file for info mode? > Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:50:51 -0800 > > > It used to be the case that ``ESC-2 CTL-h i'' gave me the > > opportunity to select the .info file to use for info mode. Not any more. > > Plowing through the docs doesn't give me a good enough hint about > > how to do it either. Please tell me there is still a way > > to do this? > > Searching keybindings did not yield anything promising either. > > I guess I could read the elisp for the previous emacs and my current > > one, but that is too far over the top for me. I don't grok elisp > > very well anyway. > > Yes, `ESC-2 C-h i' (or `M-2 C-h i') works in Emacs before the > Emacs 22 release. Dunno if this change was intentional or is a bug > - you might check the NEWS file to see. If it was not intentional, > then you might want to report a bug using `M-x report-emacs-bug'. > > <> > > In any case, you can still use `C-u C-h i' to do the same > thing - it prompts you for the Info file to use. > > < In fact, the doc for CTL-u seems to imply that ``CTL-u 2'' is > equivalent to ``Meta-2'', with some fuzzy words following that > seem to mean, "well, not quite exactly, but pretty much and you > need to see each individual command to really know". Obviously, > it's not especially clear to me.>>