From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#1150: 23.0.60; Ibuffer's menubar menu should be named Ibuffer, not View Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:12:33 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c92c8d$b7cb61a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <002901c92c8b$31131420$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 1150@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223832627 24585 80.91.229.12 (12 Oct 2008 17:30:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:30:27 +0000 (UTC) To: <1150@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>, Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 12 19:31:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kp4ms-00076l-H0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:31:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34349 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kp4lo-0003fa-5l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:30:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kp4lZ-0003Vm-4A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kp4lX-0003Sn-0y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38644 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kp4lW-0003SN-JX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:45790) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kp4lV-0000Oz-LF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:30:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9CHTw0E023715; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:29:59 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9CHK44x021495; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:20:04 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1150 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1150-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1150.122383155620156 (code B ref 1150); Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:20:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1150) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Oct 2008 17:12:36 +0000 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com (rgminet01.oracle.com [148.87.113.118]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9CHCXto020150 for <1150@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:12:34 -0700 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m9CHCNNP009358; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:12:23 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt701.oracle.com (acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m9CHCMaG013031; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:12:22 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.23.165.218) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:12:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <002901c92c8b$31131420$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> thread-index: AcksizClZbKcWXRER1iWHYjpjN2sqAAAmnYg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:30:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21421 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23204 Archived-At: > emacs -Q > M-x ibuffer > > The menubar menu `View' should be named `Ibuffer'. It is all about and > only about Ibuffer. It is not about viewing in general, and it is by > no means only about viewing. The last menu item is (rightfully) > `Customize Ibuffer', not `Customize View' or `Customize Viewing'. > > This is about Ibuffer, and only Ibuffer. Someone looking for a menu > about Ibuffer will not look for `View', and someone looking for a menu > about displaying or viewing will not expect to find only stuff about > Ibuffer. > > In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > of 2008-10-03 on LENNART-69DE564 > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 > configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt > --cflags -Ic:/g/include > -fno-crossjumping' My bad. I didn't notice that there were additional Ibuffer menus, `Operate' and `Mark'. I withdraw most of what I said. However, the `View' menu is still inappropriately named - it includes things that have nothing to do with viewing (`Diff with file', `Toggle Auto Mode', `Customize Ibuffer', `Filter', `Filter Groups'). It seems to be a catch-all - an `Ibuffer' menu for things that don't fit in `Operate' or `Mark'. And menu `Operate' includes some viewing menu items. I don't have a better name in mind than `View'. Instead, I'd suggest perhaps reorganizing the menus. The organization of the Dired menus is superior and might serve as a partial model.