From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ndame via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:10:36 +0000 Message-ID: <-ZmNQQ07JD7L0I5EpXolv4t1UhWBGc4SN0dkJml3cLbBjO6ucAMUzAqsI9Ca69xO_hzlMLfaLs6bY9vq8GAR24RUGu1LZqVoVkXhiJcFgtg=@protonmail.com> References: <83mu73eagw.fsf@gnu.org> <3HKWEOXkDWKA21dsCFgMgmFIMPR3VwPgNzfTjd7I5Igswu07sfhZaP-td1X4Py66xAD6kDLyLjVmujFkuabkY_S9ZZhgGZwi0IaAV6RS59U=@protonmail.com> <83ftcve6gl.fsf@gnu.org> <83blnje5ro.fsf@gnu.org> <838sine4si.fsf@gnu.org> <837dy7e3wr.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: ndame , ndame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="63824"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "40774@debbugs.gnu.org" <40774@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 21:11:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKm7-000GV4-PP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:11:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56330 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKm6-0002A2-Qm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:11:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKlz-00029w-0g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKly-0006b5-JU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41708) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKly-0006ay-85 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKly-0005Sj-1o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:11:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: ndame Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40774.158758265320975 (code B ref 40774); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2020 19:10:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKlp-0005SF-BU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.27]:52884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRKln-0005S0-Ib for 40774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:10:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1587582645; bh=eAZGdeoV6DLPj+7lYA8crJBS19aZNfOchh3E37Yaun8=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=dQtDTiQMANVzE4DSShSMZVHpSp7JJ33QhIY1IAIA9hRSSCYSyfmeYi/7SttsNBiGZ ibv+x6ZOzHK5LrzMm0AP8StOfk2J41Bjy5bwsmSxGgR4i3lRoy05tOEVg0MpzZqIm7 QMH/qznNoGFsNSl0HmMn0JhQVx2FxiNXXLt1iVtM= In-Reply-To: <837dy7e3wr.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178828 Archived-At: > > But that's exactly the problem I see with your proposed strategy: > when Emacs prints a message, it is never idle, by definition. But the condition is not "when Emacs is idle", but "when the user is idle". So Emacs can do some processing, running some timers, printing messages while the user is idle in Emacs, right?