* bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters in MS-Windows
@ 2016-08-05 8:38 cschr
2016-08-06 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-09 12:33 ` bug#24162: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOURE DOING - EMACS IS OVERWHELMING ! cschr
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: cschr @ 2016-08-05 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 24162
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when trying to process existing file "täst.txt", an empty new file with name
t\344st.txt will be created unexpectedly in the following cases:
1. when executing the following ms-windows command line:
C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\emacsclientw.exe -n -a
C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\runemacs.exe -c "täst.txt"
2. when typing "T" (modify timestamp) in emacs dired on file "täst.txt"
The same happens with the latest emacs version (24.5) available in msys2 – I
tested this version too.
In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)
of 2015-11-10
Repository revision: 9145e79dc2042fb477959ddda59c3e2ff5fa3914
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.10586
Configured using:
'configure --prefix=/z/emacs --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32
--target=x86_64-w64-mingw32 --build=x86_64-w64-mingw32 --with-wide-int
--with-jpeg --with-xpm --with-png --with-tiff --with-rsvg --with-xml2
--with-gnutls --with-sound=yes --with-file-notification=yes
--without-dbus --without-imagemagick 'CFLAGS=-O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-g0 -pipe' 'LDFLAGS=-static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -static -s
-Wl,-s''
Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
Important settings:
value of $LANG: DES
locale-coding-system: cp1252
Major mode: Text
Minor modes in effect:
TeX-PDF-mode: t
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
global-auto-revert-mode: t
delete-selection-mode: t
save-place-mode: t
desktop-save-mode: t
recentf-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
size-indication-mode: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
global-visual-line-mode: t
visual-line-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent messages:
Checking 87 files in
c:/Programme/Emacs-24.5-Win64/share/emacs/25.0.50/lisp/calc...
Checking 120 files in
c:/Programme/Emacs-24.5-Win64/share/emacs/25.0.50/lisp/obsolete...
Checking for load-path shadows...done
You can run the command ‘report-emacs-bug’ with M-x r-em RET
Checking for load-path shadows...done
Mark set
Auto-saving...
Mark set
Buffer *unsent mail to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org* modified; kill anyway? (y or
n) y
File no longer exists: p:/Temp/t st.txt, write buffer to file? (y or n) n
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* bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters in MS-Windows
2016-08-05 8:38 bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters in MS-Windows cschr
@ 2016-08-06 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-08-09 12:33 ` bug#24162: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOURE DOING - EMACS IS OVERWHELMING ! cschr
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-08-06 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cschr; +Cc: 24162
> From: "cschr" <cschr@freenet.de>
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:38:52 +0200
>
> when trying to process existing file "täst.txt", an empty new file with name t\344st.txt will be created
> unexpectedly in the following cases:
>
> 1. when executing the following ms-windows command line:
>
> C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\emacsclientw.exe -n -a
> C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\runemacs.exe -c "täst.txt"
>
> 2. when typing "T" (modify timestamp) in emacs dired on file "täst.txt"
For the 2nd issue, there was a subtle bug in dired-aux.el, now fixed
on the master branch, which could sometimes mis-encode the file names
passed on the 'touch' command line. However, the bug raises its ugly
head when the locale-coding-system cannot encode the file names passed
to 'touch', so given the data of your system locale:
value of $LANG: DES
locale-coding-system: cp1252
I very much doubt that bug affected you, because codepage 1252 can
very well encode the character in question, ä.
So I'm inclined to guess that the problem is in the version of
touch.exe you have installed: is it by any chance a Cygwin or MSYS
build of the GNU 'touch' utility? If it is, then it assumes the file
names will be encoded in UTF-8, while the native Windows build of
Emacs will encode them in codepage 1252.
For the 1st issue, I cannot reproduce it on my system. I replaced the
ä character with a character supported by my system codepage, and
could successfully invoke Emacs via emacsclientw. So once again, my
guess would be that your system locale is somehow misconfigured, or
maybe you are invoking Emacs from some MSYS2 shell that expects file
names to be encoded differently. Or maybe it's one of your
customizations: did you try the same recipe in "emacs -Q"?
Btw, what is the -c switch to runemacs you used? When I try it, Emacs
complains that -c is an unknown switch.
Thanks.
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@ 2016-08-06 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-06 12:15 ` cschr
2016-08-06 12:34 ` cschr
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-08-06 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cschr; +Cc: 24162
[Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]
> From: "cschr" <cschr@freenet.de>
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:30:18 +0200
>
> Honestly I am not an emacs expert yet - it could well be that my language
> configuration is not as it should be. Maybe you could give me a hint how
> to set it, or direct me to the right web page ?
You shouldn't need to do anything, the defaults should "just work" for
you. They do work for me. However, using MSYS2 or Cygwin builds of
various utilities might be a problem, and could very well cause
incompatibilities. The only way around that is to use native ports of
those utilities.
> Im indeed using the MSYS2 build of the GNU touch utility.
That doesn't tell enough about the nature of the binary. What does
the following command display inside Emacs?
M-: (w32-application-type (executable-find "touch")) RET
> But the strange thing is: I also downloaded and used emacs via MSYS2
> - and it had the same problem !
Emacs downloaded from MSYS2 is a native Windows program. I'm not so
sure about touch.exe; the above command should tell.
> I had had an earlier issue with ornamented characters which was even worse:
> dired sometimes displayed files with ornamented characters incorrectly and
> was unable to open them (but this did not happen always - I never found out
> when it did and when not!).
Could it be that the files that cannot be displayed were created by
some external utilities? Or by old versions of Emacs? What does the
Windows Explorer show when you try to display the folders with those
file names?
> I had resolved this one successfully by putting
> the following into my init.el - since then the issue never occurred again:
> (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-default-coding-systems 'utf-8)
> (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; backwards compatibility as default-buffer-file-coding-system
> ;; is deprecated in 23.2.
> (if (boundp 'buffer-file-coding-system)
> (setq-default buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (setq default-buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8))
> ;; Treat clipboard input as UTF-8 string first; compound text next, etc.
> (setq x-select-request-type '(UTF8_STRING COMPOUND_TEXT TEXT STRING))
These are all wrong, you should remove them from your init file. The
correct defaults for the various coding-systems are set up on Windows
automatically, and you shouldn't try changing them, as long as you are
using the native Windows build of Emacs.
> what I now just tried instead is:
> 1. I took out all "...-coding-system" statements from my init.el and
> restarted emacs
> 2. I started dired and looked at the folder "täst.txt" - result: now the
> ornamented character is displayed uncorrectly and the file cannot be opened
> anymore
Can you display that folder in the Windows Explorer? If so, does it
show correct file names? If the file names are corrupted in the
Explorer, you have somehow created that folder with file names in the
wrong encoding.
> 3. I executed again > C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\emacsclientw.exe -n
> -a C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\runemacs.exe -c "täst.txt" - result:
> now this file opened properly
As expected.
> I now also did another test with a minimum init.el which just had
> "(server-start)" - everything worked fine - but this does not mean that the
> dired-problem is not there, because this one only occurs sometimes
As long as you use native Windows programs to create files, and as
long as your Emacs doesn't have those wrong settings of coding
systems, you should not see such problems. At least not in Emacs 24.5
and later.
> So is this a config problem, and if yes: can you give me a hint how to get
> the right setup in order to cover all 3 problems ?
The advice is (a) don't change any of the coding-systems in your init
file, and (b) use only native Windows utilities outside of Emacs to
create/modify files whose names include non-ASCII characters.
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* bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters in MS-Windows
2016-08-06 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-08-06 12:15 ` cschr
2016-08-06 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-06 12:34 ` cschr
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: cschr @ 2016-08-06 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Eli Zaretskii'; +Cc: 24162
Okay - thanks so much, Eli !
"M-: (w32-application-type (executable-find "touch")) RET" evaluates
to "msys"
The files which cannot be processed are normal files created by me locally -
they only thing special about them is the ornamented character in the file
name. They can be processed normally by Windows Explorer, which also shows
the ornamented characters properly.
One last question please, Eli: how do I recognize native windows ports, and
where do I get native ports of all the utilities needed by emacs (ls, diff,
touch, ...)
Thank you very much for your great help !
Regards
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Zaretskii [mailto:eliz@gnu.org]
Sent: Samstag, 6. August 2016 13:53
To: cschr
Cc: 24162@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters
in MS-Windows
[Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]
> From: "cschr" <cschr@freenet.de>
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:30:18 +0200
>
> Honestly I am not an emacs expert yet - it could well be that my language
> configuration is not as it should be. Maybe you could give me a hint how
> to set it, or direct me to the right web page ?
You shouldn't need to do anything, the defaults should "just work" for you.
They do work for me. However, using MSYS2 or Cygwin builds of various
utilities might be a problem, and could very well cause incompatibilities.
The only way around that is to use native ports of those utilities.
> Im indeed using the MSYS2 build of the GNU touch utility.
That doesn't tell enough about the nature of the binary. What does the
following command display inside Emacs?
M-: (w32-application-type (executable-find "touch")) RET
> But the strange thing is: I also downloaded and used emacs via MSYS2
> - and it had the same problem !
Emacs downloaded from MSYS2 is a native Windows program. I'm not so sure
about touch.exe; the above command should tell.
> I had had an earlier issue with ornamented characters which was even
worse:
> dired sometimes displayed files with ornamented characters incorrectly
> and was unable to open them (but this did not happen always - I never
> found out when it did and when not!).
Could it be that the files that cannot be displayed were created by some
external utilities? Or by old versions of Emacs? What does the Windows
Explorer show when you try to display the folders with those file names?
> I had resolved this one successfully by putting the following into my
> init.el - since then the issue never occurred again:
> (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-default-coding-systems 'utf-8)
> (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; backwards compatibility as default-buffer-file-coding-system ;; is
> deprecated in 23.2.
> (if (boundp 'buffer-file-coding-system)
> (setq-default buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (setq default-buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8)) ;; Treat clipboard
> input as UTF-8 string first; compound text next, etc.
> (setq x-select-request-type '(UTF8_STRING COMPOUND_TEXT TEXT STRING))
These are all wrong, you should remove them from your init file. The
correct defaults for the various coding-systems are set up on Windows
automatically, and you shouldn't try changing them, as long as you are using
the native Windows build of Emacs.
> what I now just tried instead is:
> 1. I took out all "...-coding-system" statements from my init.el and
> restarted emacs 2. I started dired and looked at the folder "täst.txt"
> - result: now the ornamented character is displayed uncorrectly and
> the file cannot be opened anymore
Can you display that folder in the Windows Explorer? If so, does it show
correct file names? If the file names are corrupted in the Explorer, you
have somehow created that folder with file names in the wrong encoding.
> 3. I executed again >
> C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\emacsclientw.exe -n -a
C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\runemacs.exe -c "täst.txt" - result:
> now this file opened properly
As expected.
> I now also did another test with a minimum init.el which just had
> "(server-start)" - everything worked fine - but this does not mean
> that the dired-problem is not there, because this one only occurs
> sometimes
As long as you use native Windows programs to create files, and as long as
your Emacs doesn't have those wrong settings of coding systems, you should
not see such problems. At least not in Emacs 24.5 and later.
> So is this a config problem, and if yes: can you give me a hint how
> to get the right setup in order to cover all 3 problems ?
The advice is (a) don't change any of the coding-systems in your init file,
and (b) use only native Windows utilities outside of Emacs to create/modify
files whose names include non-ASCII characters.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters in MS-Windows
2016-08-06 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-06 12:15 ` cschr
@ 2016-08-06 12:34 ` cschr
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: cschr @ 2016-08-06 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Eli Zaretskii'; +Cc: 24162
Im really confused about "native port", so maybe you could just indicate how
and where do I get the right versions of all of these tools, and how I
recognize they are right ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Zaretskii [mailto:eliz@gnu.org]
Sent: Samstag, 6. August 2016 13:53
To: cschr
Cc: 24162@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters
in MS-Windows
[Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]
> From: "cschr" <cschr@freenet.de>
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:30:18 +0200
>
> Honestly I am not an emacs expert yet - it could well be that my language
> configuration is not as it should be. Maybe you could give me a hint how
> to set it, or direct me to the right web page ?
You shouldn't need to do anything, the defaults should "just work" for you.
They do work for me. However, using MSYS2 or Cygwin builds of various
utilities might be a problem, and could very well cause incompatibilities.
The only way around that is to use native ports of those utilities.
> Im indeed using the MSYS2 build of the GNU touch utility.
That doesn't tell enough about the nature of the binary. What does the
following command display inside Emacs?
M-: (w32-application-type (executable-find "touch")) RET
> But the strange thing is: I also downloaded and used emacs via MSYS2
> - and it had the same problem !
Emacs downloaded from MSYS2 is a native Windows program. I'm not so sure
about touch.exe; the above command should tell.
> I had had an earlier issue with ornamented characters which was even
worse:
> dired sometimes displayed files with ornamented characters incorrectly
> and was unable to open them (but this did not happen always - I never
> found out when it did and when not!).
Could it be that the files that cannot be displayed were created by some
external utilities? Or by old versions of Emacs? What does the Windows
Explorer show when you try to display the folders with those file names?
> I had resolved this one successfully by putting the following into my
> init.el - since then the issue never occurred again:
> (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-default-coding-systems 'utf-8)
> (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; backwards compatibility as default-buffer-file-coding-system ;; is
> deprecated in 23.2.
> (if (boundp 'buffer-file-coding-system)
> (setq-default buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8)
> (setq default-buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8)) ;; Treat clipboard
> input as UTF-8 string first; compound text next, etc.
> (setq x-select-request-type '(UTF8_STRING COMPOUND_TEXT TEXT STRING))
These are all wrong, you should remove them from your init file. The
correct defaults for the various coding-systems are set up on Windows
automatically, and you shouldn't try changing them, as long as you are using
the native Windows build of Emacs.
> what I now just tried instead is:
> 1. I took out all "...-coding-system" statements from my init.el and
> restarted emacs 2. I started dired and looked at the folder "täst.txt"
> - result: now the ornamented character is displayed uncorrectly and
> the file cannot be opened anymore
Can you display that folder in the Windows Explorer? If so, does it show
correct file names? If the file names are corrupted in the Explorer, you
have somehow created that folder with file names in the wrong encoding.
> 3. I executed again >
> C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\emacsclientw.exe -n -a
C:\Programme\Emacs-24.5-Win64\bin\runemacs.exe -c "täst.txt" - result:
> now this file opened properly
As expected.
> I now also did another test with a minimum init.el which just had
> "(server-start)" - everything worked fine - but this does not mean
> that the dired-problem is not there, because this one only occurs
> sometimes
As long as you use native Windows programs to create files, and as long as
your Emacs doesn't have those wrong settings of coding systems, you should
not see such problems. At least not in Emacs 24.5 and later.
> So is this a config problem, and if yes: can you give me a hint how
> to get the right setup in order to cover all 3 problems ?
The advice is (a) don't change any of the coding-systems in your init file,
and (b) use only native Windows utilities outside of Emacs to create/modify
files whose names include non-ASCII characters.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#24162: 25.0.50; utf8 filenames with ornamented characters in MS-Windows
2016-08-06 12:15 ` cschr
@ 2016-08-06 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-08-06 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cschr; +Cc: 24162-done
> From: "cschr" <cschr@freenet.de>
> Cc: <24162@debbugs.gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 14:15:52 +0200
>
> "M-: (w32-application-type (executable-find "touch")) RET" evaluates
> to "msys"
Which means it is not a native Windows port -- those should yield
"w32-native". And that explains your problems with the 'T' command in
Dired.
> The files which cannot be processed are normal files created by me locally -
> they only thing special about them is the ornamented character in the file
> name. They can be processed normally by Windows Explorer, which also shows
> the ornamented characters properly.
And what does Emacs show for them? If those file names include
non-ASCII characters that codepage 1252 cannot encode, then you cannot
invoke other programs from Emacs on those files.
> One last question please, Eli: how do I recognize native windows
> ports
See ab ove.
> and where do I get native ports of all the utilities needed by emacs
> (ls, diff, touch, ...)
GnuWin32 collection is one place, the ezwinports site is another.
I guess the MSYS2 site also has some native ports, but you will have
to ask on their forum how to find those native ports.
I'm closing this bug report, as it isn't a bug in Emacs.
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2016-08-06 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-08-09 12:33 ` cschr
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: cschr @ 2016-08-09 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Eli Zaretskii'; +Cc: 24162
Chris
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