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From: Taylan Kammer <taylan.kammer@gmail.com>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Advantages over Nix?
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 13:42:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d15d54f9-8ee6-60ad-96c6-d7ab165b4471@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ1=4KeDUCg0EX_VCRvWhH7pb4Y=3ucBcY8sW68vrfxr5w@mail.gmail.com>

On 26.10.2020 11:41, zimoun wrote:
> 
> The main pitfall is not the Dockerfile per se but the classical
> distribution it often implies.  Well, this video is explaining better
> than my words. :-)
> 
> https://archive.fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/gnu_guix_new_approach_to_software_distribution
Great video!  I love the way Ludo explains things.

> I do not know Nix.  The killer features I cannot work without now are:
> 
>   - time-machine
>   - environment (alone, with --pure or --container)
>   - pack -f docker
>   - repl
I think pack -f docker is going to be the "killer feature" in this case.

Well, the following doesn't seem so complicated either actually:

   https://nix.dev/tutorials/building-and-running-docker-images.html

But I really like how 'guix pack' can generate a tarball just as well, 
which could be deployed and tested anywhere...

I'll need to make a few more comparisons.

>> TL;DR: sell Guix (over Nix) to someone who doesn't care about GNU or
>> Scheme?
> 
> For reference, Pierre started this [1] and I do not remember the end
> of the story.   IMHO, the nice move is to write down typical use
> cases/scenarii that Guix solves and then the audience can pick the one
> they are interested in or the one that talks to them as an entry
> point.  Therefore, to convince my co-workers, I pick our typical
> workflow, show how it works (or would work) with Guix, pointing out
> what are the current drawbacks of the current workflow and how Guix
> improves the situation or sometimes only one specific part of the
> workflow.  (My co-workers are biologists so they do not care much
> about the computational tools since the one who is doing. ;-))
> 
> 1: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2020-01/msg00002.html

That sounds like a sensible approach, thanks for the suggestion!


- Taylan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-26 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-26  7:42 Advantages over Nix? Taylan Kammer
2020-10-26  9:29 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2020-10-26 11:36   ` Taylan Kammer
2020-10-26 23:39     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-27 10:35       ` Pjotr Prins
2020-10-27 13:14         ` zimoun
2020-10-28  5:58           ` Pjotr Prins
2020-10-26 10:41 ` zimoun
2020-10-26 11:44   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-10-26 12:46     ` Taylan Kammer
2020-10-26 12:42   ` Taylan Kammer [this message]
2020-10-26 16:14     ` zimoun
2020-10-26 20:29       ` Yasuaki Kudo
2020-10-26 22:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus

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