From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mickey Petersen <mickey@masteringemacs.org>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, 73404@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:53:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8634lmbs8t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frpm20t7.fsf@masteringemacs.org> (message from Mickey Petersen on Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:56:35 +0100)
> Cc: 73404@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Mickey Petersen <mickey@masteringemacs.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:56:35 +0100
>
> In my opinion, that's not what `sexp' movement is.
>
> Sexp movement is movement by balanced expressions -- and a fallback to
> word-like behaviour absent that -- and this is not that. It would be
> better to relegate this sort of thing to its own set of keybindings.
The term "balanced expression" is not well defined in languages other
than Lisp and Lisp-like ones. It is clear what expected when point is
on a brace or a parenthesis, but entirely NOT clear when you start
from something else. For example:
int foo = bar + 2 * baz;
Suppose you start with point at "foo": what would you expect
forward-sexp to do? nothing?
> > We might need to add a user option so people can easily turn off
> > tree-sitter sexp movement, since it isn’t a strict upgrade from the
> > generic sexp movement—it’s more of a different flavored sexp movement.
>
> It should be opt-in, not opt-out.
I disagree. Moving by sub-trees is a natural generalization of sexp
movement for languages where parentheses and braces are rare and far
in-between.
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2024-09-21 5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26 9:56 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-09-26 12:13 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27 5:43 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01 3:57 ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02 6:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-05 18:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 19:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-10 17:20 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-11 6:31 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-11 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 15:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 16:50 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-12-11 18:27 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-12 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 8:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 16:31 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 7:06 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-14 11:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 18:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 4:04 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 7:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:18 ` bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 3:02 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-24 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 7:41 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-13 7:31 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-13 7:47 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-14 7:52 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-18 7:59 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 3:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-25 7:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-26 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-27 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:03 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 9:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:39 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:34 ` bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:05 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:44 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 8:34 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:36 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-27 7:59 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-25 18:01 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-27 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-29 17:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 7:15 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 8:00 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-04 17:46 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-04 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 7:32 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 11:46 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 12:30 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:20 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 17:59 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:50 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 17:40 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:04 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-06 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-07 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-11 18:19 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-11 19:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-12 7:34 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-12 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 18:02 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 14:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 8:56 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-07 17:56 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-08 2:27 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-09 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-09 18:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2025-01-09 18:44 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-10 3:14 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-10 7:34 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-30 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
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