From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 51490@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#51490: Show an indicator when Emacs is busy somewhere in the Emacs window
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 17:01:53 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <834jx0vnam.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkr8am4o.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:32:39 +0200)
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 51490@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:32:39 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > That's true, but if Lisp cannot run, neither can redisplay. They both
> > access the internal Emacs state: buffers, variables, etc. Even to
> > replace a single glyph, you'd need to access faces, right?
>
> I'm not sure that we have to? That's why I wondered whether we could
> somehow get away with just altering the glyph matrix...
We barely get away with that on TTY frames (that's how TTY menus are
implemented). On GUI frames, I don't think it's feasible, not with
the code we have now.
As for not accessing any Lisp data: do you really believe our users
will let us deprive them of even the minimal customization
capabilities, like determining the face of this indicator and how it
generally looks? I sincerely doubt that.
> > Also, poking a single glyph on a GUI frame is unsafe, because no one
> > can be sure the new glyph will have the same metrics as the old one.
>
> I was thinking way more primitive than that -- just altering the
> pixelish data on some level. I.e., I wouldn't want to display the
> characters | \ etc, but instead some pre-calculated pixel data.
We don't write pixels to the glass, we call GUI APIs to do that.
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2015-02-04 23:03 bug#19776: 25.0.50; HTML rendering is very slow Richard Stallman
2015-02-05 11:42 ` Nicolas Richard
2015-02-05 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-25 22:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-26 6:14 ` Richard Stallman
2018-04-15 21:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-15 22:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-22 23:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24 12:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24 14:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 16:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24 17:56 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-24 18:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 19:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 19:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24 19:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 20:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 20:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 20:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 20:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 21:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-25 13:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 13:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 17:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-29 17:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-29 17:59 ` bug#51490: Show an indicator when Emacs is busy somewhere in the Emacs window Stefan Kangas
2021-10-30 12:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 20:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-20 11:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-21 11:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-21 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-21 12:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-21 12:34 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-21 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-21 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-21 13:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-21 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-09-21 16:02 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-21 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-21 17:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-22 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-22 10:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-22 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-22 13:08 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-22 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-22 15:57 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-22 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-23 15:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-23 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-22 13:02 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-22 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24 22:14 ` bug#19776: 25.0.50; HTML rendering is very slow Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-24 22:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 7:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-25 13:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 13:33 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-25 13:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-25 13:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 14:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 14:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 14:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-25 14:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 14:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 14:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 14:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-25 15:05 ` bug#19776: timerfd doesn't work when busy-looping Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 16:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 16:41 ` bug#19776: The hourglass Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 16:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 16:09 ` bug#19776: 25.0.50; HTML rendering is very slow Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 16:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 17:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 17:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-25 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 17:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-25 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 2:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-25 13:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-27 12:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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